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But the problem I have with the overall presentation of the reconstruction era is that it always focused on the south and whites who didn't want to grant black freedom and never on the north that didn't want to grant worker freedom. 1877, the year reconstruction ended, is the year the American civil war actually began. Yeah, they subdued the rioters...but that civil war continued and hasn't as of yet ended.

or it did end, is ending now.

The problem is we can use force and maintain control, or we can create solutions that are designed to fail without continuous force...civil rights legislation and court decisions required Ike and LBJ to send in troops.

Power of any kind over others becomes a struggle to control that power. Absalom my son! is the only history power can ever achieve...a continuous struggle.

After Bacon's rebellion, with way too few masters to control the workers, deliberate laws were established to separate them from ever unifying again to chase the masters all the way back to England.

In Africa and much of the colonized world, the majorities were able to unite and send the colonizers back to their own lands.

But too many inkblots of colonization were spilled over what had been many groups, or ethnicities, or tribes, or whatever term you like, that now had to be a country and the eur. still controlled the majority of the resources even upon departing. Corruption was the bribe and struggle for the power over the resources the different ethnicities still did not have and were still struggling to obtain.

Now you're a historian, and you know all of this better than I, but reconstruction didn't end (in my opinion) because of klannish tendencies in the south to take back control, but because northern industrialists saw a solid aristocratic need to reinstall the southern aristocracy to prevent the bleeding of scalawag-black government and local control of the land, roads, schools, c. into the north.

After the war there was nothing but laborer attempts in the north to share some of the power while many of those southern govts were reducing authority over others and giving more resources to more people. What if the coalition between blacks and whites reached into the north and workers (still primarily european) reached into their own bailiwick and they no longer controlled their own workers?

Frederick Douglas said there was a difference between chattel slavery and working for wages, but not much. The difference, he said, was freedom, but he never achieved that freedom until he became independent of all masters.

The post-Bacon legislatures in Maryland and Virginia created in the American psyche that the tribes in this nation were defined not between the workers and the masters but between blacks and whites.

But the white workers have nevertheless have not found their lives particularly appealing, and the Charlie Kirk's, c. are the absurdity of this dual psychological insight imposed on whites that they are better than black people but knowing they are not being treated very well.

Until unity can be established by directing the workers into a unified class then the kings of the corporatist elite and the candidates they give money to, chaos remains in the minds of citizens...and chaos in the minds creates chaos in the society and prevents stepping out of our four centuries + of defining our tribes by skin color.

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Gotta disagree with you on one point: Watergate - breakng into the HQ of the Democratic National Convention - could never be a "petty crime".

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