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I think I posted a couple of months the story of my own fifth grade history class, the text straight out of Owsley. It was not a southern school, I attended but a US military school. I didn't of course know Owsley then but I knew enough to know many of the text's claims were bogus.

Homer recreated the myth of fallen Mycenaeans and The fallen Judaeans in Persian captivity began recreating the myth that their teeny weeny city-state had once been greater Israel.

The fallen Romans recreated the myth of their fall to Barbaric Huns (johnny-come-latelys of the steppe hordes), not blonde, not blue-eyed and Rome the city had already fallen (possibly to blue-eyed invaders).

Opposed to Owsley is Meachum (another Vanderbiltian scholar) whose over-glorification of Lincoln appears to me just as made up.

The absurdity of the idea that Ben Franklin knew anything at all about the "Iroquois Confederacy" in 1754!

Maybe some Dutch from New York might have known a little, but by 1754 most of their relationship had been suspended. That is why in 1754 the Haudenosaunee could not have influenced Ben Franklin, the replacement of Dutch-protestant alliance with the Haudenosaunee was in complete disarray.

The Haudenosaunee at one time consisted of several other tribes that extended into the north, to the western historian notably the Huron but there were four other families that became absorbed into the western mind as part of the Huron, so there were 10 families (our term is tribe). The French in Quebec sene soldiers and missionaries and eventually the northern families (not necessarily all of the Individuals of course) had converted to Catholicism. To combat the threat of the northern Haudenosaunee who now became missionaries and militant combatants and the missionaries converted some of the Seneca and Cayuka which caused both intra-family conflict but severely alarmed the eastern three tribes and they allied with the Dutch but only as far as getting arms to combat against the Sneca and Cayuka tribes. While this was the Huron and the French decided they needed a buffer and they invited the Algonquin into the region between themselves and the southern tribes. The buffer allowed the southern families to prevail and form what we came to know as the Iroquois confederacy ( a language, not a people that included other Natives in Canada beyond the Haudenosaunee, but not the Algonoquin which spoke Anishinaabemowin also spoken by Objiway,Cree,Cheyenne, Blackfoot, et al.). Now this was occurring throughout most of the period in which Ben Franklin was supposedly modeling the Albany Convention on the Confederacy's organization. It did not yet exist so Franklin certainly couldn't have modeled or been influenced by a league that was not yet formulated. The eastern families, though led by the Mohawk, circa the late 1750's to around 1760-1761, did find a conduit with Konwatsi'ts (known to us as Molly Brant) who was the consort of a British governor in western New York and had eight children by him.Although a Mohawk, the father of her children William Johnson, was basically the British overseer of the lands where the Seneca and some of the Cayuka resided. She and her brother Joseph Brant (don't recall her brother's real name) were therefore able to bring the British proposal to the Seneca, and Cayuka, now isolated joined. The five nations as we now know them actually then began in 1761 when the five tribes agreed to the British proposal of alliance in 1761.

It was through Konwatsi'ts that two things occured, the first translation, or written Haudenosaunee, (which I learned to read) and our notions of the Confederacy. It is out of this that their and our notions of the Hiawatha legend is reset to a much earlier setting. Of course there was probably some notions of that legend from past traditions but probably included all ten families, since in the legend the Peacemaker is a Huron).

But why Americans would promote this idea that Franklin had modeled anything after the governing manner of the Haudenosaunee, remains baffling to me since their "democracy" was completely based of absolute agreement between the families and then between all of the Kanonhsésne (longhouses) within each family since Konwatsi'ts was a loyalist and moved to Canada and spent her last years amongst the Hurons.

Nevertheless this conception that the Confederacy governance somehow influenced the constitution is post-Morgan since no American knew anything whatsover amount Haudenosaunee culture or governance before them. In fact Morgan's work was ridiculed at first because when he first published it what everyone knew was the were savage tribes ruled by a chief who together met and decided the tribe's destiny and everyone had to follow. What everyone knew they didn't live in Kanonhsésne but wandered aimlessly in search of food and were mere hunter gatherers.

What everyone knew was what Jefferson wrote in his Notes that the five nations had no capacity four any kind of governance and so how in the hell could people with no capacity for governance have ever influenced the framers of the constitution?

Of course the Haudenosaunee was one of my prime studies in mythology(the development of) that I studied in college, and so now history tells us a false history.

History can be (shouldn't be) both an erasure and a reinvention. History should be an attempt not at promoting what one wants by attempting to obliterate the past and as I think I stated the last time it is both white and black history that america has tried to alter. The difference is even most whites know a deal more truth about the attempt to cover up black history, the conflict between the races is perpetuated because the whites almost unanimously have no idea how their own history both in America and Europe has been covered up.

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